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cedricbenson
02-07-2006, 10:14 PM
For those pro-Israel people out there, check out the website of the former terrorist turned Israel supporter Walid Shoebat: www.shoebat.com . It also gives you a little incite into the world of radical Islam, something that threatens us all.
From Wikipedia: Walid Shoebat is a Palestinian author and former member of the PLO, who converted from Islam to Christianity, and came to public attention by becoming an ardent critic of Islam and supporter of Israel.
He is the founder of the Walid Shoebat Foundation, an organization that seeks to combat anti-Semitism and promote peace in the Middle East. His story has been featured on FOX news, MSNBC, CBS, and the BBC.
Biography
Shoebat was born in Beit Sahour, Bethlehem. He moved to Jericho and lived through the Six Day War of June 1967. "On the sixth day [of the war], everything went quiet," Walid told BBC News. "My father was listening to Arab radio and the news said: 'We cleansed Jerusalem of the Jews'. Then we opened the door and there was this Israeli tank with the Star of David flag standing in our street!"
His great-grandfather on his mother's side, an American, was the mayor of Eureka in Humboldt County, while his grandfather on his father's side was friendly with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseni.
His American mother met his father, a Jordanian, while they were studying at Humboldt State University in California. She returned with her husband to the Middle East, where he taught English and Islamic studies. Shoebat told the Daily Telegraph that his father changed toward his mother once he was back in his own culture. She apparently wanted to return to America with her children, but her husband took her passport and kept her a prisoner in the family home.
My father was caught between his love for his wife and his love for Islam. He could not see a way to reconcile the two. The tension made him a very unhappy and angry man. But Islam won.
As a teenager in the mid-70s, Shoebat joined the PLO and took part in organizing demonstrations and printing fliers. His dream, he told the BBC, was to die as a shaheed (martyr). One day during a riot, he and a group of other Palestinians lynched an Israeli soldier, who was rescued by Israeli troops. Shoebat was arrested and imprisoned for several weeks in the Muscovite Prison in Jerusalem. After his release, he admits to having bombed an Israeli bank in Bethlehem.
In an effort to secure an education for their son, his parents sent him to the United States, where he enrolled in Loop College in Chicago, becoming president of the Palestinian Students' Association. He later moved to California, where he met his wife, a Mexican Roman Catholic. They now have two children.
I wanted her to convert to Islam. I told her Jews had corrupted the Bible and she asked me to show her some examples of this corruption. At this point I had to go and buy a Bible and I started reading it and I saw the word 'Israel' all over it. I had to be brutally honest — the very word I hated the most was throughout this book!
Shoebat has explained that he was raised in an atmosphere of anti-Semitism. "From kindergarten we were taught that Jews were dogs. We were taught that Jews were the converts of monkeys, that Jews were Sabbath breakers and prophet killers. We even considered Arabs in pre-1967 Israel traitors because we could not understand how they could co-exist with Jews."
After reading the Bible, he decided to renounce violence and convert to Christianity. His family denounced him and his brother threatened to kill him for abandoning Islam.
Shoebat previously worked as a software engineer, and now works full time lecturing and participating in discussions as a public advocate of peace and an opponent of "militancy as a way of solving the Palestinian problem." He believes the only solution to the conflict is "the crushing defeat of all Palestinian military groups."
He has told reporters that he has received e-mails telling him that he's going to be assassinated, and that there's a reward of $10 million for whoever kills him.
kurtmasur
02-08-2006, 06:22 AM
Israel is NOT a friend of the USA. Friends don't spy on friends!
Don't forget about the Fox News Report that showed how Israel has a huge spy ring working within this country.
To the Bush Administration and to the US Congress: Stop funding Israel!!!
Every concerned citizen should be angry about this ;-( ;-( ;-(
Irenera
02-08-2006, 09:20 AM
Israel is NOT a friend of the USA. Friends don't spy on friends!
Don't forget about the Fox News Report that showed how Israel has a huge spy ring working within this country.
To the Bush Administration and to the US Congress: Stop funding Israel!!!
Every concerned citizen should be angry about this ;-( ;-( ;-(
SOMEBODY OPEN A VERY HEAVY ISSUE HERE. SORRY TO TELL YOU KURTMASUR. USA SPY ON EVERYBODY, FRIENDS OR NO FRIENDS. WE GOT SPIES ON ALL OF THE NATIONS. USA GOT PEOPLE SPIES AND STEILLIETED SPY. USA TRIES TO BE ONE STEP AHEAD BUT TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH MOST OF THE TIME THEY DON'T PAY TOO MUCH ATTENTION. 9/11 AND PERAL HURBOR ARE SOME THAT GOT SWEEP UNDER THE RUG.
AS FOR RELIGION, THEIR WAR IS ON WHO BELIVES ON WHAT. BUT IF WE ARE NOT CAREFUL WE ARE HEADING THAT DIRECTION. JUST LOOK AT ALL THE USA TAKE OFF. PRAYER IN SCHOOL, FOOTBALL FIELD. INGOD WE TRUST OFF THE COURT HOUSE. AND THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE OFF FROM THE MONEY. ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH RELIGION IS BE TAKEN OFF A LITTLE AT A TIME. THE DAY CHRIST WAS BORN ON XMAS DAY, IS NO LONGER CELEBRATE AS HIS DAY OF BIRTH BUT AS A HOLIDAY. WHERE ARE WE HEADING, WE GO AND FIGHT TRYING TO CHANGE OTHER COUNTRIES AND UNTIONS OF THEIR BELIVES BUT YET HERE WE ARE DOING THE SAME THING. AND YOU KNOW WHY WE ARE NOT FIGHTING EACH OTHER, BECAUSE WE WERE BROUGHT UP TO HAVE FREEDON OF RELGION AND FREEDON OF SPEECH. QA. QA, QA,QA.
IF WE ARE NOT VERY, VERY CAREFUL ONE DAY WE ARE GOING TO END UP FIGHTING ONE ANOTHER.
Irenera
02-08-2006, 10:38 AM
For those pro-Israel people out there, check out the website of the former terrorist turned Israel supporter Walid Shoebat: www.shoebat.com (http://www.shoebat.com) . It also gives you a little incite into the world of radical Islam, something that threatens us all.
From Wikipedia: Walid Shoebat is a Palestinian author and former member of the PLO, who converted from Islam to Christianity, and came to public attention by becoming an ardent critic of Islam and supporter of Israel.
He is the founder of the Walid Shoebat Foundation, an organization that seeks to combat anti-Semitism and promote peace in the Middle East. His story has been featured on FOX news, MSNBC, CBS, and the BBC.
Biography
Shoebat was born in Beit Sahour, Bethlehem. He moved to Jericho and lived through the Six Day War of June 1967. "On the sixth day [of the war], everything went quiet," Walid told BBC News. "My father was listening to Arab radio and the news said: 'We cleansed Jerusalem of the Jews'. Then we opened the door and there was this Israeli tank with the Star of David flag standing in our street!"
His great-grandfather on his mother's side, an American, was the mayor of Eureka in Humboldt County, while his grandfather on his father's side was friendly with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseni.
His American mother met his father, a Jordanian, while they were studying at Humboldt State University in California. She returned with her husband to the Middle East, where he taught English and Islamic studies. Shoebat told the Daily Telegraph that his father changed toward his mother once he was back in his own culture. She apparently wanted to return to America with her children, but her husband took her passport and kept her a prisoner in the family home.
My father was caught between his love for his wife and his love for Islam. He could not see a way to reconcile the two. The tension made him a very unhappy and angry man. But Islam won.
As a teenager in the mid-70s, Shoebat joined the PLO and took part in organizing demonstrations and printing fliers. His dream, he told the BBC, was to die as a shaheed (martyr). One day during a riot, he and a group of other Palestinians lynched an Israeli soldier, who was rescued by Israeli troops. Shoebat was arrested and imprisoned for several weeks in the Muscovite Prison in Jerusalem. After his release, he admits to having bombed an Israeli bank in Bethlehem.
In an effort to secure an education for their son, his parents sent him to the United States, where he enrolled in Loop College in Chicago, becoming president of the Palestinian Students' Association. He later moved to California, where he met his wife, a Mexican Roman Catholic. They now have two children.
I wanted her to convert to Islam. I told her Jews had corrupted the Bible and she asked me to show her some examples of this corruption. At this point I had to go and buy a Bible and I started reading it and I saw the word 'Israel' all over it. I had to be brutally honest — the very word I hated the most was throughout this book!
Shoebat has explained that he was raised in an atmosphere of anti-Semitism. "From kindergarten we were taught that Jews were dogs. We were taught that Jews were the converts of monkeys, that Jews were Sabbath breakers and prophet killers. We even considered Arabs in pre-1967 Israel traitors because we could not understand how they could co-exist with Jews."
After reading the Bible, he decided to renounce violence and convert to Christianity. His family denounced him and his brother threatened to kill him for abandoning Islam.
Shoebat previously worked as a software engineer, and now works full time lecturing and participating in discussions as a public advocate of peace and an opponent of "militancy as a way of solving the Palestinian problem." He believes the only solution to the conflict is "the crushing defeat of all Palestinian military groups."
He has told reporters that he has received e-mails telling him that he's going to be assassinated, and that there's a reward of $10 million for whoever kills him.
SORRY I DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB ON CUT AND PASTE. BUT LIKE I SAID BEFORE U.S. NEEDS TO BE VERY CAREFUL ARE ELSE WE ARE GOING TO BE IN A WAR WITH EACH OTHER ON RELIGION LIKE OTHER NATIONS.
BOLIGEE, Ala. - The front of the sanctuary was in flames, and smoke was pouring from the windows of Morning Star Baptist Church when Johnny Archibald arrived to a grimly familiar scene in Alabama.
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As soon as he saw the fire, he immediately thought of the five other Baptist churches that had burned in the morning darkness four days earlier.
"I don't know what's going on," Archibald said Tuesday as he stood outside the ruins of his church. "It's just sickness."
Morning Star Baptist and three other rural Alabama churches were damaged or destroyed by fires Tuesday, bringing the number of suspicious church fires in the state to nine in less than a week. Authorities said they had no clear suspects but were inspecting tire tracks and footprints and searching for a dark-colored sport-utility vehicle.
"Obviously somebody or somebodies are interested in burning down churches. Whether it's hate against a race or religion in general, we don't know," said Ragan Ingram, a spokesman for the state insurance agency that oversees fire investigations.
Ingram said the first rash of fires early Friday — at four predominantly white churches and one predominantly black church — are believed to be linked.
The [URL="http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news/?p=FBI"]FBI (http://us.bc.yahoo.com/b?P=XJiA30SOwhV5TRi.Qiy4JQyt0bhy_kPqKi8AA79x&T=1bg1iufhd%2fX%3d1139419695%2fE%3d8903239%2fR%3dnews%2fK%3d5%2fV%3d2.1%2fW%3d8%2fY%3dYAHOO%2fF%3d2364256784%2fH%3dY2FjaGVoaW50PSJuZXdzIiBjb250ZW50PSJJdDtpdDtpbnN1cmFuY2U7d2hpdGU7Z292ZXJubWVudDtXYXNoaW5ndG9uO3JlZnVybF91c19mMzQ4X21haWxfeWFob29fY29tIiByZWZ1cmw9InJlZnVybF91c19mMzQ4X21haWxfeWFob29fY29tIiB0b3BpY3M9InJlZnVybF91c19mMzQ4X21haWxfeWFob29fY29tIg--%2fQ%3d-1%2fS%3d1%2fJ%3d0E47BFD1&U=139ks2qiv%2fN%3dRSqPF9G_RuE-%2fC%3d390764.7918813.8761389.1442997%2fD%3dLREC%2fB%3d3226908) was already looking into whether those fires were civil rights violations under laws covering attacks on religious property, and the state and federal government had offered $10,000 in rewards for information when the new fires were reported.
The four fires Tuesday — all at predominantly black churches — could be a continuation of that crime spree, or they could be copycat attacks, Ingram said Wednesday.
FBI acting assistant director Chip Burrus said investigators are working on the assumption that all nine fires are connected.
All of the churches are Baptist, the dominant faith in the area, and all were off rural roads not far from highways. The fires were in two clusters: the first five all in Bibb County, south of Birmingham, and the latest four in western Alabama 10 to 20 miles apart.
Three of the fires Tuesday appeared to have started near the churches' altars, according to church members and authorities, and at least two were found to be arson.
Rich Marianos, a spokesman for the federal Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agency, said more than 50 agents are now assigned to the investigation and it is the No. 1 priority nationally.
In Boligee, Archibald said he was told by a resident that a sport-utility vehicle had been seen speeding through an intersection near the church.
Members of the Old Union Baptist Church in Brierfield, damaged by fire early Friday, had earlier told The Associated Press they saw a dark SUV near their church as they arrived to douse the flames.
Archibald's Morning Star Baptist Church was reduced to smoking rubble. Burned to its concrete block foundation, all that remained of the wood-frame building was the front steps and handrail.
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kurtmasur
02-10-2006, 05:31 AM
SOMEBODY OPEN A VERY HEAVY ISSUE HERE. SORRY TO TELL YOU KURTMASUR. USA SPY ON EVERYBODY, FRIENDS OR NO FRIENDS. WE GOT SPIES ON ALL OF THE NATIONS. USA GOT PEOPLE SPIES AND STEILLIETED SPY. USA TRIES TO BE ONE STEP AHEAD BUT TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH MOST OF THE TIME THEY DON'T PAY TOO MUCH ATTENTION. 9/11 AND PERAL HURBOR ARE SOME THAT GOT SWEEP UNDER THE RUG.
AS FOR RELIGION, THEIR WAR IS ON WHO BELIVES ON WHAT. BUT IF WE ARE NOT CAREFUL WE ARE HEADING THAT DIRECTION. JUST LOOK AT ALL THE USA TAKE OFF. PRAYER IN SCHOOL, FOOTBALL FIELD. INGOD WE TRUST OFF THE COURT HOUSE. AND THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE OFF FROM THE MONEY. ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH RELIGION IS BE TAKEN OFF A LITTLE AT A TIME. THE DAY CHRIST WAS BORN ON XMAS DAY, IS NO LONGER CELEBRATE AS HIS DAY OF BIRTH BUT AS A HOLIDAY. WHERE ARE WE HEADING, WE GO AND FIGHT TRYING TO CHANGE OTHER COUNTRIES AND UNTIONS OF THEIR BELIVES BUT YET HERE WE ARE DOING THE SAME THING. AND YOU KNOW WHY WE ARE NOT FIGHTING EACH OTHER, BECAUSE WE WERE BROUGHT UP TO HAVE FREEDON OF RELGION AND FREEDON OF SPEECH. QA. QA, QA,QA.
IF WE ARE NOT VERY, VERY CAREFUL ONE DAY WE ARE GOING TO END UP FIGHTING ONE ANOTHER.
The problem with Israel is not just their spying on us. We the US taxpayers fund Israel an unproportionate amount of aid each year. More than what is normal.
Also, one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington is AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee). This is a pro-Israel organization which gives many kinds monetary donations to most members of Congress in exchange for pro-Israel policies.
No other country in the world has has such a big lobbying group in Washington promoting its interests. Recently AIPAC has been under FBI investigation for receiving classified information from a Pentagon official and using this information on behalf of the government of Israel, for those who have been following the real news.
Don't take my word for it, you can see for yourselves how much money our Congressmen get in monetary gifts from AIPAC. Check out the list:
http://www.wrmea.com/html/aipac.htm
It's shocking to see who really is controlling our US Congress.
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