Republicans In Ep

[cotton]

I am a conservative Republican. How many people in this site are Republicans? I think EP is now starting to lean towards the Repub party. EP supported Henry Bonilla with 58% voting for him. GWB got one of the highest amount of votes that Repub Pres. Candidate has gotten from Mav. County at 40%. Repubs used to get about 20% or less in the past. And some of the top elected officials here in EP are Republicans. Mayor Chad Foster, Councilwoman Salgado, former mayor J. Rodriguez, County Judge Aranda, and several school board members are proclaimed Republicans. Plus, many notable figures here such as Mike Garcia and Dr. Sergio Zamora are Republicans too. I think the pendulum is starting to swing politically here on the border.

[jamal]

Even though people think Black people are traditionally Democrats, my family doesn't fit the mold. We were part of the 11% of Black people who supported Bush. You know, its not good to give all of your allegience to just one party. The Democrats never do anything for Black people because they don't have to do nothing. They know they'll get the Black vote no matter what, and thats BS. Please don't call me Uncle Tom, because I am not a sell-out. Its just that I agree with many Republican beliefs. I also believe the War in Iraq was right too. I have a brother who is over there, and he paints a different picture than what the media does. He said that the people over there are greatful to be free and want to be a democratic country. Most of the insurgents are from other countries, and not Iraq.

[cedricbenson]

I'm proud to say that I am also a Republican. I also want to say that I support my troops and my President. They will be in my prayers. I think EPOnline should find a way to list all the great men and women from EP who are serving our country in Iraq and Afghanistan and give them the much deserved recognition. May God Bless America!

[spursfan12]

Viva Bush!!! W is a great man! For those who have not met him in person, he is an awesome dude!

[Eldude]

I'm a Republican too! I like to hear Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Ann Coulter tell it like it is. Congressman Bonilla has done a lot for Eagle Pass. I would like to see him as the next Republican Senator from Texas. I would also like to see Kay Bailey Hutchinson run for Texas Governor in 2006. Even though Perry is a Republican, I think he needs to go. I think Kay Bailey is really great. Plus, she's a Longhorn. Perry is an Aggie.

[mena]

Originally posted by cedricbenson@Dec 23 2004, 03:26 AM
I'm proud to say that I am also a Republican. I also want to say that I support my troops and my President. They will be in my prayers. I think EPOnline should find a way to list all the great men and women from EP who are serving our country in Iraq and Afghanistan and give them the much deserved recognition. May God Bless America!
If you have a list, let me know. I will see what I can do :) .

[kurtmasur]

Originally posted by spursfan12@Dec 23 2004, 12:43 PM
Viva Bush!!! W is a great man! For those who have not met him in person, he is an awesome dude!
Ya'll should already know that I am no Republican, but I do support a few conservative issues traditionally supported by Republicans. While I think there is nothing ultimately wrong with being a Republican, I advise all of you people declaring your affiliation to this GOP party to realize who its leaders really are, and what is really happening based on their policies.

These GOP leaders should not take your vote for granted just because ya'll are Republicans. I am a Democrat, and that didn't mean I was happy with John Kerry. I only voted for him because I had no other realisitc choice.

I challenge my fellow Republican Eagle Passans to research the following topics with a quick Google search, and keep your Republican leaders in mind while reading about:

Bohemian Grove
Skull and Bones
Project for the New American Century ---- All of the members of this think tank make up the Bush Administration (read their Statement of Principles from http://www.newamericancentury.org )


You'll be surprised how your "great, wonderful and awesome" national leaders partake in pagan rituals while paying lip service to Christianity.

[silverfox_006]

:ph34r: Am republican and I support Bush but I wish they were more candidates to choose from but oh well, guess we have to work with what we have.

[Rapunzel]

Bush is a pathetic draft-dodger who lied and sent our troops to an unnecessary war.

How did liberating Iraq get to be something that the United States ought to do? Why Iraq instead of North Korea or China?

You people are brainwashed.

[Evie]

You go Rapunzel!!!! :D Tell it like it is !!!!

[Rapunzel]

Look at them. As Bush gave his lying reasons for invading Iraq, they were blind followers, true believers. Then that turned out to be wrong. So Bush makes up another story. The brainwashed change gears without so much as a "huh?". Now, they are content with claiming we went over there to liberate Iraq. Whatever Bush says, they echo it right back.

What if Bush had said from the start that it was high time the United States risked the lives of our troops to liberate Iraq. How many Americans would have agreed that is something we ought to have done? How many Americans would have volunteered their sons and daughters to the cause? How many would have happily run up the national debt for their grandchildren and great grandchildren to pay?

Bush pulled a bait-and-switch, and Republicans just went along with it.

Sometimes I think the ones who go along with whatever Bush says just can't stand to be in the minority. They will do or say whatever most people do or say. If I'm the only person in the country saying Bush was wrong, I'll keep saying it with my last breath.

Proud to be a Republican? I cannot think of many things more shameful than being a Republican these days, unless it's being a Democrat in Congress who went along with Bush because they were spineless. So which is worse – spineless or mindless?


There's no one in Congress who cares about this nation anymore. All they care about is making their personal fortunes. The lot of them isn't worth the rope it would take to hang them.

[Rapunzel]

Please don't call me Uncle Tom, because I am not a sell-out.

No, you're not. You're just misinformed. Please notice that Bush is not abiding by conservative principles. He is squandering our resources and running up our debt for an unnecessary war.

Tell us which conservative principle of the Republican Party you hold most dear. Union busting? Well, you've got that. The government telling us how to live our private lives? You've got that. Wars and more wars? You've got that. Debt? You've got that. The rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer? Yep, you've got that. The environment destroyed. Done! Fewer college opportunities for the poor and middle class? That, too!

Conservatives don't approve of Bush. His followers are the extreme right and ordinary folks who just don't recognize when their political party has departed from the principles that attracted them to it. There are a few others, but I won’t mention them.

[kurtmasur]

Rapunzel, you took the words out of my mouth. There is no better word than the word brainwash to describe the blind allegiance given to this puppet W. It just makes me laugh when I read on these message boards phrases like "we should all stand behind our commander-in-chief" and "I support my commander-in-chief". Little do they know who they are supporting.

I still challenge my fellow Eagle Passans to investigate what the Bohemian Grove is. Do a google search. Actually if you want to see a taste of what it's like, I strongly recommend watching the last film made by Stanley Kubrick: Eyes Wide Shut. Concentrate on the part of the movie where the group of elite men meet in a private estate. Something similar actually happens in a ranch near San Francisco, called the Bohemian Grove, and it's attended by only top elite political men from across the political spectrum, the majority who happen to be current Republican leaders.

Bush and his administration are no Christians. They only pay lip service to the religion to fool the population.

Anyone claiming to be a follower of Jesus Christ has a very high standard to live up to. Whatever happened to "thou shall not lie", and "thou shall not kill"? Christians are supposed to love everyone, their enemies included, without exception. That means loving Iraqis. It means speaking up when “our troops” kill and maim them. Christians are supposed to be truthful and avoid even the appearance of evil. That means Christians shouldn’t lie about the existence of weapons of mass destruction. It of course follows that Christians shouldn’t give the Medal of Freedom to the creators of those lies.

[Rapunzel]

It means speaking up when “our troops” kill and maim them.

And it means speaking up when Bush's policies kill and maim our troops. The Republicans have put the nonsense out there that the way we must support the troops is to support Bush and pretend that this war is right.

Apparently Republicans think our troops have to be mollycoddled with sweet words and that they can't handle the truth.

Of course, now that we have created utter chaos in Iraq, I don’t know what can be done about it. I would recommend sending the Bush administration over there for the duration. They can set up their offices there. That might give them some incentive to get those troops home. Drafting a few senators' kids would get things sorted out in a hurry, too.

I wish someone who sees Bush as a Christian would share the evidence with me. I'm serious. What has he done that makes you think he's a Christian? Calling people nasty names, perhaps? Slaughtering thousands in Iraq? Lying to the world? Executing another Christian with Christian leaders pleading for her life? What?

Do y'all know that he doesn't even go to church? Other presidents did, but not Bush. I think he has been to church once or twice in all since he was elected. I'm not saying that going to church makes someone a Christian. I am saying that there is not even that small evidence that he is a Christian.

[kurtmasur]

Originally posted by Rapunzel@Dec 25 2004, 03:40 PM
Drafting a few senators' kids would get things sorted out in a hurry, too.

Oh, I'm so glad you mentioned this fact too. Out of the 535 members of Congress (both Representatives and Senators combined) only ONE has a child serving in Iraq or Afghanistan. Only ONE. I won't even mention Bush's daughters.

For these top elite officials, it is way too easy to declare all the war they want.

And the way the military enlistment is set up, it is designed so that the disadvantaged (translation: minorities) sign up more than anybody else, and thus be fighting in the frontlines. Again, it's a classic example of the elite manipulating the masses as they wish.

It's just a matter of time until this country becomes an official dictatorship.

[Rapunzel]

It's just a matter of time until this country becomes an official dictatorship.

You got that right. Do you hear that, Republicans? And when that dictatorship is firmly established, we will have you to blame for going along with Bush when a little bit of thought about it would have opened your eyes.

I ask you again: What policy of Bush's is your favorite? The smirk? The swagger? The attitude? Bush disdains you. Make no mistake about it. He snickers with his pals behind your backs about your loyal devotion and how you would willingly sacrifice your lives for him.

[silverfox_006]

:ph34r: Well the fact of the matter is, is that Islamofacistic terror is on the rise and their main target is America. We can't turn a blind eye cause it will just come back to hit our butts. So what are we ought to do? I don't know. I guess increase homeland security.

[Rapunzel]

Well the fact of the matter is, is that Islamofacistic terror is on the rise and their main target is America.

In that case, they are not very efficient.



We can't turn a blind eye cause it will just come back to hit our butts

You are right about that. In fact, if Bush had not turned a blind eye, 9-11 would have been prevented.

So what are we ought to do? I don't know. I guess increase homeland security.

Increasing security is one thing to do. But not if it means giving up our rights and freedoms. If we do that, the terrorists have won.

There is also a matter of building coalitions. True coalitions. Stop alienating countries all over the globe. It will require cooperation to assure that terrorists have no place to hide.

And don't be afraid to speak out when you catch your government in blatant lies even if it means you have to have the courage to be in the minority.

[Rapunzel]

One more thing. Iraq was not where the terrorists were. There might be terrorist there now that we have created total chaos. But it's time to stop pretending that Iraq had anything to do with terrorism or with 9-11 or Osama bin Laden.

Marching across the globe, bombing the hell out of folks and slaughtering tens of thousands of innocent children and civilians is no way to stop terrorism.

[silverfox_006]

Thats true I guess by bombing civilians they are just creating more hatred toward us. And it will be a never ending cycle of terror and destruction. :(

[silverfox_006]

The only thing I can do as an individual is just pray.

[kurtmasur]

It is very comforting to know that members on this board, like Rapunzel, are awake and very well aware of what is really happening, and who the current leaders in the White House really are.

Silverfox mentioned the following: "islamofacistic terror is on the rise and their main target is America."

This is exactly what the Bush Administration wants the population to think, so that we may consent to whatever policies they want to implement. So that we may consent to whatever wars they want. The Bush Administration only uses fear to manipulate the masses.

Consider the following parable:

When I was growing up, my mother used to tell me to be a good boy or else the "cucuy" would come from outside the house and get me. Sometimes when I wouldn't listen, I would hear sudden knocks coming from some random wall, and she would tell me "oy eso, es el cucuy". Of course, the naive me thought it was really the "cucuy" who had knocked. No "cucuy" ever came in. Now that I've grown up, I realize how it was my own mother who used to knock on some wall, just to get some instant obediance from me, based on fear.

Another parable:

Other times when I wouldn't listen, she would suddenly "faint". Conveniently enough, as soon as I would announce out loud to myself that I was going to seek help from a neighbor, she would miraculously get up. The same would happen when she would hear me pick up the phone to call one of my "tias". Now that I think about it, I think how it was funny how she would always faint by falling over on a sofa or a bed. Never on the floor, like real fainters more often do. How convenient.

Ya'll may think this is funny, but you must put yourself in the shoes of a 5-year old. I honestly thought that the cucuy monster had been the one who knocked and that my mother really fainted. That I had lost her. If anybody at that time would have whispered in my ear "no te creas, son puras mentiras", I would have immediately dismissed as silly the idea that the faintings and the knockings were staged.

Well, what can we learn from these parables? 1) Well, that leaders can use fear to manipulate their subordinates. 2) There was never any "cucuy". The faintings were never real. Everything was staged, by my mother herself. This is the exact same situation with "terror". Their is no Al-Qaeda. Osama Bin-Laden works side by side with the US government (remember, he was trained by our own government during the 80s in Afghanistan to help push out the Soviets out of there). 9-11, among other attacks on America, were staged by our own leaders just to get what they want from us.

And boy it has certainly worked. Patriot Act I, which abolished half of the Bill of Rights, was passed immediately 9-11. Patriot Act II, which basically abolishes the remaining items in the Bill of Rights, has already passed in both houses of Congress earlier this month. (Did you know that the Government can now search your house anytime without a warrant?)

If this country isn't already an official dictatorship, it certainly is a de facto dictatorship.

[silverfox_006]

Well I guess its all a big conspiracy. :huh: I say we all revolt against the government and overthrow it, lets all go to Hesles and start stocking up on guns and ammo. :ph34r:

[Rapunzel]

Stocking up on guns and ammo will do little good until you have people who will actually have the courage to speak out.


The only thing I can do as an individual is just pray.

You can do more than that. You can speak out, and point out the lies of government, whether that government is conservative or liberal.

If we wait much longer to speak out, it is quite possible that prayer is our only resort. So speak out as if the first amendment to the constitution were in jeopardy, because it IS!

[kurtmasur]

Originally posted by Rapunzel@Dec 26 2004, 12:45 PM
You can speak out, and point out the lies of government, whether that government is conservative or liberal.

And you can also speak out and point out the lies of the government regardless if YOU are conservative or liberal.

Being aware of what is REALLY happening has NOTHING to do with being a liberal or a conservative.

And don't let anybody accuse you of being unpatriotic for speaking out against the policies of the Bush Administration. That's the way it is in countries with communist regimes, you get stigmatized for dissenting. http://www.oldamericancentury.org/dissent.jpg

[silverfox_006]

Stocking up on guns and ammo will do little good until you have people who will actually have the courage to speak out.

You can do more with a gun and a word than you can do just with a word. :ph34r:

[kurtmasur]

Originally posted by silverfox_006@Dec 28 2004, 11:00 AM


You can do more with a gun and a word than you can do just with a word. :ph34r:
Silverfox, you are missing the point. If enough people would wake up and realize what is really happening, then a lot could be achieved. Take what happened with the Ukrainian elections as an example. The population was not blind, and they knew their elections were stolen from the guy wanting to get re-elected. The people got together to protest their government, and they WERE SUCCESSFUL in getting their message across PEACEFULLY. Just these past few days they got to hold new elections in the Ukraine, all thanks to the masses of people who showed they cared. The Ukrainians rule.

[silverfox_006]

Silverfox, you are missing the point.

No I didn't miss understand I just wanted to quote someone in my replys like you guys do lol. :P

[silverfox_006]

By the way I just understood that we can't overthrow our government because then if we do, we are the ignorant fools who don't understand government and politics. We need them because they are essential, but knowing how much power they can have is the question. :ph34r: